February 12, 2007

jim and casper go to church

My friends, Matt Casper and Jim Henderson have received their first review of there upcoming book, Jim and Casper Go To Church. You can read the review here. Matt sent me his response. Here it is:

Dear Mr. Gilley,

I'm Casper. I read your review. (This is the first book I've ever written, and I was googling it, and, lo and behold—your review!).

First, thank you very much for reading it and posting a review! I am wondering how you came by a copy…? All I have are galleys, and as far as I know, they're not being widely circulated…?

But that's not the main reason I'm writing. The main reason is feedback. I doubt I'll have time to give unsolicited feedback to everyone who reads the book, but one thing you said made me say "exactly!"

"The concept is intriguing, if not doomed from the start. It is flawed because the Lord has already informed us that the gospel is foolish to the unbeliever (1 Corinthians 1:18-25)."

As a pastor-teacher dedicated to building the kingdom of God, I would hope that you believe such a conversation would be anything but doomed from the start.

Do you think Jesus would have said such a thing? "I can't talk to these people who don't currently follow my God. This conversation is doomed from the start."

Regardless, using the bible as proof--1 Corinthians 1:18-25--for a non-believer is another part of the problem. Would you accept as proof from a Muslim that you're an infidel because it says so in the Koran? Of course not! That's called circular logic: it doesn't hold up in courts or in conversations.

Also, using my Osteen quote out of context: very deceitful. Remember, I said that Osteen appeals to the worst IN people (greed, mostly), not the worst people. Taking the quote out of context applies I was saying the latter. A very sneaky thing to do (again: would Jesus have done that, or told you do that?).

I will add that I am honored that you think I am "totally out of the mainstream with the masses." So was Jesus while he walked the earth (and way more so than me—they killed him: the worst I have to fear is bad reviews!).

Thanks again for reading. I am happy to discuss belief (or non-belief) any time!

Matt Casper

2 comments :

keck said...

that is an epic comment... i dig it

Marsh said...

As a faculty member of a conservative evangelical christian university who teaches a course on the New Testament Church, I give an assignment where students as well attend worship services and bring back to class their reflections for discussion. The majority of them end up in the "Average churches in America would have around 100 attenders with 90% being under 300, but this range of churches was not included. Nor were churches of any size visited in which the teaching of the Word was central. No congregation that understands the biblical model for the church as outlined above made the book." kind of church. For the 2 years I've been giving this assignment, they come to class with many of the same experiences Casper describes. This book is not a threat to followers of Jesus, just another opportunity to listen.

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